Mat Dryhurst, engaged in important work at the intersection of music and emergent tech, discusses projects like Holly+ AI and web3 interaction, haveibeentrained.com for opting out of Large Language Model training datasets, and the Interdependence podcast. They explore the impact of emergent tech on musicians and the importance of collaboration. Topics include gatekeeping in the music industry, consent and data in generative AI, regulation of web two, copyright challenges in AI models, potential of web three and crypto, and the compelling yet terrifying aspects of AI.