Mary Annaise Heglar, an advocate for climate rethinking, and journalist Amy Westervelt dive deep into Project 2025 and its implications for climate policy. They share frustrations about the disconnection in current climate advocacy, critique the historical ties of environmental movements to social justice, and discuss the risks associated with privatizing weather data. They also tackle the ethical dilemmas in climate journalism and the shifting dynamics of political engagement as they humorously examine voter sentiments leading into the election.