Marc Garlasco, civilian harm reduction advocate, and Emily Tripp, military policy expert, discuss the state of civilian harm worldwide, the Pentagon's groundbreaking policy on civilian harm reduction, and efforts to get U.S. allies and partners to buy in. They emphasize the need for better protections for civilians in conflict zones and the challenges of future administrations ignoring or removing policies aimed at protecting civilians. The speakers also discuss the importance of safeguarding personal information online and the evolving relationship between NGOs and the military.