Guest Mandi Ellefson, founder of Creative Agency Success, discusses the challenges of scaling a consulting agency, including limitations in managing direct reports and the need for middle management. They also explore misconceptions about scaling, the importance of delivering big outcomes to clients, improving product and keeping promises, and the role of executive leadership in scaling a business.

Mandi Ellefson, founder of Hands Off CEO and author of "The Hands Off CEO", talks about Super High Ticket Offers, offer creation, scaling consulting agencies, defining dependencies, standing by results and making bigger offers, and the importance of belief and creativity in achieving success.

Mandi Ellefson, founder of Hands-off CEO, shares her journey from overwhelming debt to multimillionaire status by transforming consulting agencies into self-sustaining enterprises. She stresses the importance of building systems that allow businesses to thrive without the constant presence of the CEO. Mandi distinguishes between growth and scale, highlighting the need to create capacity and systems for consistent results. She advocates for productizing services based on outcomes and emphasizes the mindset shift required to embrace delegation and empower teams.