Makena Kelly, a Wired Politics reporter known for her keen insights into the political landscape, joins David Gilbert, an expert on the intersection of technology and politics from Cork, Ireland. They dive into the unpredictable nature of Trump’s potential second term. Will Elon Musk's rising influence cause friction with Trump? Can Christian nationalists really push for a porn ban? They also speculate on the future of UFO disclosures and the enchanting world of conspiracy theories—both curious and alarming—that will shape the political discourse.

In this engaging discussion, Makena Kelly, a senior writer at Wired, delves into the fascinating intersection of technology and politics. She analyzes how Donald Trump's strategies, including engagement with the 'manosphere' and influential podcasters, shifted voter dynamics. Kelly highlights the hyper-masculinity that resonates with young male voters and contrasts Trump's grassroots tactics with Democrats' traditional approaches. The conversation reveals the evolving influence of social media in political campaigns and the challenges of modern political communication.