Andrew Coster, the outgoing Police Commissioner of New Zealand, shares insights on his transition to the role of Secretary for Social Investment. He discusses the complex relationship between crime, societal issues, and community trust. Maire Leadbeater, a peace activist, reflects on her family's historical state surveillance, emphasizing the emotional impact of scrutiny. Nelson Mayor Nick Smith tackles the decline in local election participation, advocating for reforms and community engagement to restore trust in governance. Each guest highlights the necessity of nuanced conversations around crime and governance.