Sunder Katwala leads British Future, focusing on immigration and identity. Alan Manning, an LSE professor, offers economic insights, while Madeleine Sumption analyzes migration trends from Oxford. Robert Colvile discusses policy implications. The group delves into public sentiment, revealing divides over immigration that mask agreement on specific groups, like Ukrainian refugees. They tackle the polarization fueled by media and politicians, advocating for honest discourse to bridge gaps in understanding and improve policy for a diverse UK.

Dr Madeleine Sumption from the Migration Observatory at Oxford talks about falling net migration. The podcast also debunks claims about Taylor Swift's economic impact and explores the reasons behind the rising UK prison population.

Migration Observatory guest Madeleine Sumption and BBC Verify guest Nick Eardley join Adam to discuss whether the government has cleared the backlog of older asylum cases. They analyze the numbers, question the definition of the backlog, and highlight the progress made and remaining uncertainties. They also delve into the complexities of immigration and migration issues, emphasizing the need to understand specific groups and systems involved. Additionally, they cover the new boss of Ofsted being interviewed and a head teacher sharing his experience with school inspections.