M. R. Leonard, author of the debut novel "Pilgrims," dives into the intriguing world of Catholic aliens and discusses the book's origins, influenced by childhood catechism and contemporary media. He shares insights into treating writing like a business, stressing the importance of professional discipline. The conversation also explores themes like originality, genre boundaries in sci-fi, and the moral complexities of pilgrim culture. Leonard's unique approach to storytelling and character development, echoing Augustine's Confessions, adds depth to the narrative.