In this engaging discussion, Paul Downs, a custom furniture maker, shares his surprising spike in job applications and explores implications for hiring practices with Kate Morgan, an HR expert, and Liz Piccarazzi, who manufactures trash and package bins. They discuss the balance between what companies offer vs. expectations, the impact of AI on job security, and the emotional strain of rejecting qualified candidates. Additionally, Liz provides a cheerful update on her tariff situation, while they weigh the risks of starting a business in today's economy.