Kristen Waggoner, CEO of Alliance Defending Freedom and a legal expert on gender and DEI issues, discusses President Trump's initiatives to reverse federal policies on gender identity. She highlights the potential impacts of these changes on women's rights, especially in sports. Waggoner also delves into the struggle between federal and state ideologies and the importance of legal definitions of sex. The conversation further explores how politics and culture intersect, emphasizing a need for restoring rights and addressing censorship in policy discussions.

Heather Mac Donald, a Manhattan Institute Fellow and author, shares her thoughts on the troubling admiration for the murder of a CEO, examining societal attitudes towards violence and political rhetoric. Kristen Waggoner, President of Alliance Defending Freedom, and cake artist Jack Phillips discuss ongoing legal struggles surrounding personal beliefs against compelled speech, particularly around LGBTQ+ issues. The conversation dives into how media narratives shape public perception, contrasting responses to different violent acts, and the implications for future leadership and societal values.