Kris Perry, a key plaintiff in the landmark case Perry v. Schwarzenegger, joins the conversation alongside Sandy Stier. They reflect on their emotional journey through the fight against California’s Prop. 8, sharing personal stories of love and resilience. The discussion highlights their advocacy efforts and the struggles faced by LGBTQ+ individuals during this pivotal time. They also celebrate the progress made in marriage equality, emphasizing its significance in shaping societal attitudes and the importance of language in the fight for justice.