Kevin Haines, a Pain and Rehab specialist and advocate for the anti-glass back movement, discusses his journey in rehab and client trust-building. He explores load management, merging therapy with strength training for injury prevention. Haines highlights the need to overcome biases in athletic training and introduces a color-coded system for managing pain in sports. He emphasizes personal limits through a 'three light system' and shares insights into creating personalized coaching strategies. Witty banter and groundbreaking ideas make for an enlightening listen!