In this engaging discussion, Laura Goldstone, a Senior Director of Communications, and Kamye Hugley, a Training Manager for an education nonprofit, explore the insights from Julie Dirksen's 'Talk to the Elephant.' They delve into the importance of emotional intelligence in learning design and the balance between the emotional and logical aspects of behavior change. Listeners gain real-world examples of implementing these principles in both corporate and nonprofit settings, highlighting how change is an ongoing process. Plus, they champion the power of book clubs for collaborative learning!