In this lively discussion, Kae shares her innovative PTO spreadsheet and its importance for mental health breaks. Kendra Adachi dives into her book, *The Plan*, offering insights for effective planning tailored to women's needs. Oliver Burkeman humorously discusses his book, *Meditations for Mortals*, focusing on embracing life’s limitations. The hosts also analyze their vacation experiences with the idea of a post-mortem to enhance future trips and preview the exciting 2025 Hobonichi planner, packed with design features to streamline organization.