Josh Chin and Lisa Lin, the authors of “Surveillance State: Inside China's Quest to Launch a New Era of Social Control and journalists at the Wall Street Journal, join Scott to discuss the following:  How China operates as a surveillance state The role Silicon Valley has played in the development of state surveillance around the world what to consider when it comes to US-China bilateral relations. Scott opens with his thoughts on Apple becoming the leading smartphone provider in the US as well as its plans to move further into the digital ad space. Algebra of happiness: tell someone you admire them. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The protests in China might force the government to back down from its extreme Covid restrictions and ramp up its extreme surveillance programs. The Wall Street Journal’s Josh Chin explains.This episode was produced by Amanda Lewellyn, fact-checked by Laura Bullard, engineered by Paul Robert Mounsey, and edited by Sean Rameswaram who also hosted.Transcript at vox.com/todayexplained  Support Today, Explained by making a financial contribution to Vox! bit.ly/givepodcasts Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

China’s quest for social control is now playing out in ways that should worry us all. In this episode of the podcast, award-winning journalist Josh Chin explains how the Chinese government is weaving digital technology into every aspect of daily life from traffic patterns to food safety to emergency response. And he argues that this is a matter of global concern: Western governments encouraged their countries’ companies to sell China the technology it needed to build its surveillance state in the hope that economic and scientific engagement would lead to political reform. Not only did that plan backfire but now China is exporting its system to other countries such as India, Uganda, and Singapore. The host for this episode is Katie Stallard - Senior Editor, China and Global Affairs, at the New Statesman magazine. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices