

Jordan Dunbar
Presenter of the BBC podcast The Climate Question and a BBC climate journalist who reports on climate negotiations and the history of the Kyoto Protocol.
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Nov 23, 2025 • 27min
The Global Story: The oil lobbyist who tried to sink the first big climate deal
Jordan Dunbar, a BBC climate journalist and presenter of The Climate Question, dives into the life of Don Pearlman, a notorious oil lobbyist. He reveals how Pearlman's tactics at climate negotiations created a blueprint for stalling action. From influencing wording battles in the Kyoto Protocol to delaying U.S. ratification, Dunbar highlights the lobbyist's impact on climate politics. As the COP30 summit approaches, he also compares past and present lobbying tactics, shedding light on the ongoing struggle between fossil fuel interests and climate advocates.

Nov 19, 2025 • 27min
The oil lobbyist who tried to sink the first big climate deal
In this enlightening discussion, Jordan Dunbar, a BBC climate journalist and presenter of The Climate Question, delves into the controversial legacy of Don Pearlman, an oil lobbyist notorious for his obstructive strategies during UN climate talks. Jordan reveals how Pearlman's manipulation of language and consensus tactics stymied the Kyoto Protocol, which the U.S. ultimately refused to ratify. He paints a vivid picture of modern COPs and the ongoing struggle between fossil fuel interests and climate action, emphasizing the critical stakes at COP30 in Brazil.


