Dr. Ellen Evans, a food safety expert at Cardiff Metropolitan University, discusses the risks of raw milk, emphasizing foodborne illnesses and the importance of hygiene in production. Jonny Crickmore, a third-generation farmer and chairman of the Raw Milk Producers Association, shares insights into consumer trends and the allure of raw milk as a perceived healthier choice. The conversation explores the health claims surrounding raw milk, the impact on children's health, and the delicate balance between consumer choice and safety regulations.