Join Athenian Stranger, a Plato-focused educator, and Jonathan Bai, an independent scholar, as they dive into the complexities of Plato's Gorgias. They explore the conflict between Gorgias and Socrates, framing rhetoric as two competing 'technologies'—one empowering the individual, the other seeking truth. The trio discusses key themes like nihilism, the moral stakes of rhetoric, and the responsibility of educators. Expect philosophical gems and compelling insights that resonate with our modern world, challenging the nature of speech and its political impact.