Jola Ajibade, an Associate Professor of Environmental and Climate Justice, and Jesse Keenan, an expert in Sustainable Real Estate, explore the myth of Asheville as a climate haven. They debunk this idea, illustrating how Hurricanes Helene and Milton exposed vulnerabilities in the region. The conversation emphasizes the urgency of resilient infrastructure and smart planning for communities facing climate disasters. They also discuss the influence of decision-makers and the private sector on risk management and the importance of collaboration among stakeholders.