Former heads of MI5 and MI6, Eliza Manningham-Buller and John Sawers, discuss the ethics of intelligence work, evolving terrorism threats, challenges in handling covert sources, the courage of informants, Russian interference in elections, and navigating global challenges like climate change. They reflect on legal compliance in British intelligence and propose updates to governance principles.

Former head of MI6, John Sawers, discusses the Israel-Hamas conflict and prospects for peace in Gaza. Topics include regional power dynamics, Iran's nuclear progress, challenges faced by the Iranian regime, political dynamics in Egypt and Turkey, and the need for a political process in the Middle East.