Dan Claps, founder of Voda Cleaning and Restoration, and John Ortega, a restoration industry veteran, delve into the pivotal role of cleaning in driving business growth. They discuss strategies for transitioning from service operator to visionary leader, emphasizing the importance of mentorship and team dynamics. Their insights into navigating the cleaning landscape highlight the need for effective systems and the integration of cleaning with restoration services. Valuable tips on marketing and fostering client relationships are also shared, making this conversation a must-listen for industry professionals.