John Iverson, The Economist's correspondent in Canada, sheds light on the indigenous-led protests that have transformed a gas-pipeline dispute into a national crisis. He discusses the tension between economic development and indigenous rights and Prime Minister Trudeau's challenge in addressing accountability. Meanwhile, Roger McShane reflects on Hosni Mubarak's nearly 30-year reign in Egypt, examining his complex legacy amid the Arab Spring and how it shaped regional stability. Both conversations reveal deep societal divisions and ongoing struggles for justice.

John Iverson, a political reporter for The Economist focusing on Trudeau, joins Emma Hogan, the publication’s deputy briefings editor with expertise in Ireland’s social shifts. They discuss Trudeau's challenges as he leads a minority government and the strategies needed to regain support amid regional tensions. Hogan shares insights on Ireland's remarkable transition from conservatism to progressivism, highlighting key moments like the legalization of same-sex marriage. They also tackle alarming trends in the global Democracy Index, reflecting on the state of democratic norms today.