John Iverson, The Economist's correspondent in Canada, sheds light on the indigenous-led protests that have transformed a gas-pipeline dispute into a national crisis. He discusses the tension between economic development and indigenous rights and Prime Minister Trudeau's challenge in addressing accountability. Meanwhile, Roger McShane reflects on Hosni Mubarak's nearly 30-year reign in Egypt, examining his complex legacy amid the Arab Spring and how it shaped regional stability. Both conversations reveal deep societal divisions and ongoing struggles for justice.