Abigail Tracy and John Harwood discuss Kevin McCarthy's failure to control the House GOP caucus as a government shutdown looms. Harwood criticizes bombthrowers like Gaetz, Greene, and Boebert for not being serious politicians. The podcast explores the impact of a shutdown on government employees and the motivations behind the impeachment inquiry into President Biden. It also delves into the role of the press, challenges in political debates, and upcoming events.