In this engaging discussion, John D. Graham, former OIRA Administrator under George W. Bush and a regulatory policy expert, sheds light on the inner workings of the Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs. He shares insights on the evolution of cost-benefit analysis, the agencies that often resist OIRA, and the persistent challenge of command and control regulations. Graham also compares his regulatory philosophies with Dick Cheney's and highlights the intriguing dynamics of navigating regulatory politics within the government.