Joey Zwillinger, Co-Founder and CEO of Allbirds, shares the intriguing story behind the brand's founding and his unique path from biotechnology to sustainable footwear. The conversation dives into the dramatic decline in Allbirds' market cap since going public, exploring strategic missteps and questions surrounding profitability. Joey discusses competitive challenges from brands like On and Hoka, and reflects on the lessons learned during this rollercoaster journey. His insights on navigating market dynamics and personal experiences round out a compelling narrative.

Tim Brown, a professional soccer player turned designer, and Joey Zwillinger, a sustainability-focused entrepreneur, discuss the creation of Allbirds. They talk about their inspiration, the challenges of launching their unique shoe concept, and how they built a billion-dollar brand. They also touch on their commitment to sustainability and the importance of luck in their journey.