Jared Holt, an expert on right-wing extremism, discusses the evolving face of right-wing extremism and its cross fertilization with anti-vaxxers. Joe Weisberg, creator of 'The Americans,' talks about ending the Cold War with Russia, his time in the Soviet Union, and the portrayal of spies in the TV show. They also delve into the threats of right-wing extremist movements and the urgency to combat these challenges.

Jared Holt and Joe Weisberg discuss right-wing extremism, evolving threats to American democracy, and Weisberg's journey from Cold Warrior to advocate for ending conflict with Russia. They also explore the complexity of US-Russia relations and the situation in Ukraine.