Lennart Heim, an information scientist at RAND specializing in AI diffusion export controls, and Jimmy Goodrich, a RAND advisor with insights into AI regulations, discuss critical current events. They explore the Biden administration's export controls, dissecting who is allowed to build data centers amidst U.S.-China competition. The conversation dives into the complexities of AI chip regulation, challenges like chip smuggling, and the geopolitical implications of global data center construction. They highlight the delicate balance between innovation and national security.