Jim Lawler

Former Chief of the CIA's Counterproliferation Division's Special Activities Unit, Jim Lawler, discusses targeting the 'Father of Pakistan's Nuclear Program' Abdul Qadeer Khan. He also talks about his espionage novels and the challenges of dealing with non-state worldwide networks. The podcast explores the life and actions of nuclear smuggler Akukan, Khan's influence in Pakistan, unraveling Khan's nuclear network, and the role of human intelligence in the modern era.

Jim Lawler, a former CIA operative, shares gripping tales from his days dismantling the notorious A.Q. Khan network, infamous for its role in global nuclear proliferation. He unveils the complexities of international espionage and negotiations that led to the disarmament of Libya. Lawler discusses the implications of Khan’s actions on world security and offers insights into the psychological nuances of recruiting spies. His experiences highlight the challenges and strategies vital for tackling nuclear threats and securing our future.

Colin Clarke discusses the Jan. 6 pipe bombs case while Jim Lawler explores the moral considerations of recruiting spies. They also delve into the Capitol storming investigation, the role of a CIA case officer, and the compromised soul of spies.