Jim Gaylord

Jim Gaylord, a former FBI Special Agent who led a significant counterintelligence investigation, shares gripping insights from his book, Chasing Chi. He details the intriguing case of Chi Mak, an engineer who targeted critical submarine technologies for espionage. The conversation dives into how a vague tip evolved into a complex operation involving covert entries, trash pulls, and tactical surveillance. Gaylord emphasizes the ongoing threat posed by China's espionage tactics and the urgent need for stronger defenses in academia and industry.