In this insightful discussion, Jessie Frazelle, CEO of Zoo and a former engineer at Microsoft, Docker, and Google, shares her vision for transforming hardware design tools. She highlights the shortcomings of current CAD tools and how Zoo aims to modernize these processes using Rust. The conversation touches on migrating from C++ to Rust, the challenges and advantages of Rust for software reliability, and the chaotic yet thrilling life of startup innovation. Frazelle also reflects on the importance of user-friendly code generation and the role of automation in hardware development.