Rachel Swarns, a contributing writer for The New York Times, joins Letitia Clark, a clinical radiology professor and descendant of Edward Queen, along with Jeremy Alexander, who uncovers his enslaved family history. They discuss the painful legacy of slavery connected to the Jesuit Church in Maryland. The conversation highlights court cases where enslaved individuals sought freedom, personal stories of struggle, and the emotional journey of discovering familial ties to this dark past. Their insights reflect on ethics, family legacies, and the ongoing quest for justice.