Fred Kaplan, a national security columnist for Slate and author of "The Bomb," discusses critical foreign policy dynamics, while Jen Kirby, a freelance journalist, offers insights on current global conflicts. They dive into how a potential Harris administration would contrast with Trump's foreign policy, especially in relation to the Middle East crisis and Ukraine. The conversation touches on implications for U.S. military aid, the impact of Iran's role in geopolitics, and the interplay between foreign issues and voter sentiment in upcoming elections.