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Jay (caller)
Live caller who discussed conceptual distinctions between automated intelligence and AGI (Mr. Meeseeks analogy) and questioned always-on agent scenarios and token/context limitations.
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Dec 24, 2025
• 2h 55min
Doom Debates LIVE Call-In Show! Listener Q&A about AGI, evolution vs. engineering, shoggoths & more
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In this lively discussion, live caller Jay dives into the intricate differences between automated intelligence and AGI. His Mr. Meeseeks analogy highlights the challenges of always-on agent scenarios and token/context limitations. The conversation ventures into AGI timelines, the balance between AI offense and defense, and superintelligence skepticism. Jay questions whether engineered AI could truly surpass biological evolution, while Liron shares insights on AI risks and alignment failures, painting a vivid picture of our potential future.
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