In this lively discussion, guests Mattie Jo Cowsert, a professional actor and author exploring faith and sexuality, and Jaxon Phoenix, a Christian humanist and author focused on deconstruction, dive into the intricate dynamics of faith and identity. They share personal stories about navigating racial experiences in church and the tension between parental love and personal beliefs. The conversation boldly tackles the complexities of deconstruction, urging the inclusion of diverse voices, while playfully reflecting on the transformative journey from certainty to compassion.