

#240: Deconstruction Reexamined with Mattie Jo Cowsert and Jaxon Phoenix
Jul 22, 2025
In this lively discussion, guests Mattie Jo Cowsert, a professional actor and author exploring faith and sexuality, and Jaxon Phoenix, a Christian humanist and author focused on deconstruction, dive into the intricate dynamics of faith and identity. They share personal stories about navigating racial experiences in church and the tension between parental love and personal beliefs. The conversation boldly tackles the complexities of deconstruction, urging the inclusion of diverse voices, while playfully reflecting on the transformative journey from certainty to compassion.
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Rich People’s Subtle Status Signals
- Wealthy people often hide their riches in accessible clothing but carry expensive accessories.
- This behavior shows performative wealth is less about display and more about subtle status signals.
Diverse Deconstruction Voices Needed
- Deconstruction narratives are dominated by old white male former pastors, overshadowing diverse voices.
- Hearing stories from different races, genders, and backgrounds enriches understanding and expands perspectives.
Distinguishing Certainty From Faith
- Certainty differs from faith; evil actions like family deportations can be known for certain as harmful.
- Faith involves hope without proof, while humility is crucial in recognizing subjectivity in beliefs.