Jason Perkins, brewer at Allagash Brewing, interviews Andrea Stanley, malt producer at Valley Malt. They discuss craft malt and brewing, expanding sourcing and building partnerships with local farms, keeping barley relevant, reviving the grain economy in the Northeast, and an arm wrestling competition for reproductive rights and the craft brewing industry.

Rob Tod and Jason Perkins from Allagash Brewing, along with Vinny Cilurzo from Russian River, dive deep into the fascinating world of spontaneous brewing. They share captivating stories from the early days of American spontaneous fermentation and discuss the unique sensory profiles of their beers. The trio explores the art of blending characterful base beers, the challenges of aging hops, and the environmental factors that impact fermentation. They emphasize the significance of connecting these artisanal brews to consumers, making for a rich and enlightening conversation.