Jan Söffner, a Visiting Professor in German Studies at Stanford, delves into the complexities of reality, the actual, and the virtual. He discusses the phenomenon of techno-narcissism and its impact on identity, likening it to the myth of Narcissus. The conversation shifts to how modern politics often favors emotional narratives over truth, particularly in the age of social media. Söffner also critiques the transition from real values to speculative investments, using Tesla as a prime example of this growing disconnect in a rapidly evolving digital economy.