Guests Lars Strannegård, President of the Stockholm School of Economics, and James Westley, Group Leader at Cambridge Consultants, discuss the growing importance of thinking skills in higher education and the workplace. They explore the definition of thinking skills and their assessment, emphasize their significance in a changing world, and highlight their relevance in engineering and design professions. They also address the shift towards valuing thinking skills over deep knowledge and the need for better navigation and human skills in the age of machine learning and robots.