James Fennell, an author on U.S. strategic policies towards China, and Bradley Thayer, an expert on engagement with the Chinese Communist Party, dive deep into America's historical missteps in dealing with the CCP. They discuss how to hold China accountable while enhancing alliances with partners like India and Taiwan. Fennell and Thayer emphasize the need for a recalibrated U.S. approach to engagement that addresses human rights issues and counters information warfare, alongside a united front against China's aggressive tactics in Southeast Asia.