This week, it’s a full house to discuss the penultimate episode of Succession, “Church and State.” First, host Kara Swisher unpacks Ewan’s surprise eulogy with actor James Cromwell. Then, she finds out how real-life funeral planner William Villanova helped the Succession team create a perfectly extravagant service for Logan Roy. And finally, Kara checks in with Jeremy Strong about Kendall’s blockbuster speech and where he stands as we head into the series finale. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

James Cromwell, known for his role as Farmer Hoggett in the beloved Babe films and his recent work in HBO's Succession, joins the discussion to explore the striking tonal shift in Babe: Pig in the City. The conversation dives into the unexpected darker themes of the sequel, reflecting George Miller's creative risks and his background as a doctor. Cromwell shares behind-the-scenes insights on training over 700 animals for the film, and the challenges faced while appealing to both children and adults in a story filled with emotional depth.