Esther Perel, a renowned psychotherapist, and Jack Saul, a psychologist and trauma expert, dive deep into the transformative power of relational healing. They discuss how creativity can help individuals navigate trauma and improve relationships. Highlights include exploring intergenerational trauma, the significance of physical touch, and the healing effects of shared narratives. The conversation emphasizes the importance of compassion and community in overcoming individual and collective suffering, making for an enlightening exchange on healing through connection.