In this engaging conversation, Howard Webb, a world-renowned referee, shares his journey from officiating to his role at PGMOL. He reveals the challenges of modern refereeing, including dealing with player conduct and the pressures of VAR technology. The lively panel debates potential law changes, the idea of ex-players becoming refs, and whether VAR should be shelved. Howard also takes listeners behind the scenes of the dramatic 2010 World Cup Final, where he handed out 14 yellows and a red card, showcasing the high stakes of his pivotal role in the game.

Former professional football referee, Howard Webb, joins the boys to discuss VAR decisions, players as referees, and the existence of big club bias. They also analyze Manchester United's vulnerabilities and reflect on controversial VAR decisions, and discuss the challenges of implementing VAR in football.