Mike Johnson, CISO of Rivian, and Gaurav Kapil, CISO of Bread Financial, dive deep into the necessity of long-term cybersecurity strategies. They discuss how new CISOs can balance immediate pressures with strategic planning. The conversation highlights the importance of having a flexible vision that adapts to evolving threats. Effective communication with C-suite executives is emphasized as vital for aligning cybersecurity goals. They also stress the indispensable nature of planning, even as strategies must adjust in a dynamic landscape.