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Defense in Depth

If and When Should a CISO Have a Long Term Security Plan?

Jan 23, 2025
Mike Johnson, CISO of Rivian, and Gaurav Kapil, CISO of Bread Financial, dive deep into the necessity of long-term cybersecurity strategies. They discuss how new CISOs can balance immediate pressures with strategic planning. The conversation highlights the importance of having a flexible vision that adapts to evolving threats. Effective communication with C-suite executives is emphasized as vital for aligning cybersecurity goals. They also stress the indispensable nature of planning, even as strategies must adjust in a dynamic landscape.
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Quick takeaways

  • Understanding an organization’s unique culture is crucial for a new CISO before rushing to create a long-term security plan.
  • Establishing a clear vision is more vital than having a rigid multi-year plan, promoting collaboration and adaptability within the team.

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Navigating Long-Term Strategy as a New CISO

A new CISO often faces the challenge of establishing a long-term cybersecurity strategy shortly after starting their role. Many initial resources suggest developing a documented strategy within the first 90 days, which can lead to significant pressure. However, it is recognized that grasping the company’s unique environment and operational culture takes time, making it unrealistic to create a comprehensive multi-year strategy immediately. As such, it's advised that new CISOs focus more on understanding the organization before rushing into planning.

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