Dr. Gary Francione, legal scholar, philosopher, vegan, and animal rights activist, joins as a guest. Topics include Equality Claims vs Belief Claims, old-school transsexuals, admitting you’re wrong, Andrea Dworkin, nonviolence, intersectionality, and principles of a liberal society. Can we police fetishes? Who’s Afraid of Kathleen Stock? Are vegans extra crazy? Does Corinna not want to be a Good Person? Despite disagreements, Dr. Francione offers thought-provoking insights.

Veganism advocates Gary Francione and Dr. Ron Weiss discuss the environmental impact of veganism, cultural barriers to adopting a plant-based diet, and the nutritional benefits of a non-meat diet. They address concerns about food availability and debunk myths about veganism being a luxury choice. The podcast explores the moral, nutritional, and environmental aspects of veganism, advocating for sustainable food practices to combat climate change.

Gary Francione, advocate for animal abolitionism, challenges the animal welfare approach, arguing for the end of all animal exploitation. He discusses the flaws in valuing certain animals over others and argues that all exploited animals are sentient beings who value their lives. The podcast also explores different viewpoints on minimizing animal suffering, ethical considerations of feeding pets a vegan diet, and the practicality of animal welfare reforms.