Gabe Sgagna, VP of Commercial Growth at Forterra, dives into the future of robotics in defense and logistics. He discusses the evolution of ground autonomy solutions and the importance of minimizing human risk in dangerous tasks. The conversation also covers the unique blend of military innovation with civilian logistics, emphasizing veterans in leadership roles. Gabe highlights the potential of automation in port operations, tackling job displacement concerns, and even touches on the ethics of autonomy through a fun lens of the Terminator universe.