Franco Ordoñez, a White House correspondent for NPR, and Fred Kaplan, Slate’s war stories correspondent, delve into the intriguing challenges facing USAID. They explore why the agency, vital for humanitarian support, is under scrutiny and its funding facing freezes. The discussion covers the historical role of USAID in diplomacy, contrasting it with military interventions. They also touch on the organization's turbulent past, particularly during the Trump era, and examine how external critiques, including from figures like Elon Musk, have shaped its future.

Franco Ordoñez, a White House correspondent for NPR, and Fred Kaplan, Slate’s war stories correspondent, dive into the turmoil surrounding USAID amid rising tensions with DOGE, linked to Elon Musk. They explore the legal implications of USAID's abrupt changes and its critical humanitarian missions. The conversation touches on the agency's historical role in diplomacy, the chaos from political pressures, and the potential impact of funding cuts on global stability. The complexities of USAID's dual mission of aid versus political agenda are scrutinized, revealing a delicate balance.