Fred Benenson, a former VP of Data at Kickstarter renowned for the 'Emoji Dick' project, and Jennifer 8. Lee, a former New York Times reporter and Unicode emoji subcommittee member instrumental in the dumpling emoji, delve into the fascinating world of emoji. They discuss the evolution of emoji as a communication tool, the politics behind emoji representation, and the surprising journey of translating Moby Dick into emojis. The conversation reveals the balance between creativity and standardization in digital language and uncovers broader implications for emotional expression in our texts.