Join Harvard's Frank Dobbin and Georgetown's Ella Washington as they tackle the polarizing landscape of diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI). They explore the historical context of DEI initiatives and the consequences of backlash in corporate and political arenas. The conversation reveals the impact of dismantling DEI efforts on various communities and discusses the importance of accessibility for all. They also share strategies for effective workplace inclusion and how Gen Z's expectations are reshaping these initiatives. Tune in for a critical look at DEI's future!

Dr. Frank Dobbin, Sociology Department Chair at Harvard University, discusses the flaws of DEI programs, critiquing traditional training methods and emphasizing the need for structural changes. Topics include the evolution of DEI, support and backlash in corporate programs, democratizing access to resources, and balancing diversity with team performance.